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== Private Subclade J-RotWeb* (J2a4*/J2a3*) ==  
== Private Subclade J-RotWeb* (J2a4*/J2a3*) ==  
[http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Y-DNA_J/ Y-Haplogroup J DNA Project]: May 2012 J2a3* Cluster H
=== FTDNA SNP-Tests ===
'''SNP-Tests''' by FTDNA 14 Dec 2011:  
'''SNP-Tests''' by FTDNA 14 Dec 2011:  
* Negative: M322- L267- P329.2- L207.1- L558- L88.2-
* Negative: M322- L267- P329.2- L207.1- L558- L88.2-
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* Matches One-Pass-Mutations FTDNA 2011-09-12 (Haplogroup/Country/Number): J1/IT/1, J1/?/1, J2/FR/1, J2/UK/2, J2/?/4, J2a4b/UK/1, J2a4b/?/1
* Matches One-Pass-Mutations FTDNA 2011-09-12 (Haplogroup/Country/Number): J1/IT/1, J1/?/1, J2/FR/1, J2/UK/2, J2/?/4, J2a4b/UK/1, J2a4b/?/1
* Matches for 12-Markers Y-DNA FTDNA 2011-09-12 (Country/Number/Matches/Total): UK/3/10.385, IT/1/3.270, FR/1/3.265, DE/1/11.753
* Matches for 12-Markers Y-DNA FTDNA 2011-09-12 (Country/Number/Matches/Total): UK/3/10.385, IT/1/3.270, FR/1/3.265, DE/1/11.753
* FTDNA DYS Y-DNA-67-Marker: 12 23 14 9 13-18 11 15 11 13 11 29 15 9-9 11 11 25 15 21 30 13-13-15-15-15-16 11 10 22-22 15 14 19 16 36-38 12 9 11 7 15-15 8 12 10 8 11 9 12 17-17 14 9 12 12 14 8 11 22 23 11 14 12 13 10 12 12 11


=== Some more insights (to translate) ===
=== FTDNA DYS Y-DNA-67-Marker  ===
12 23 14 9 13-18 11 15 11 13 11 29 15 9-9 11 11 25 15 21 30 13-13-15-15-15-16 11 10 22-22 15 14 19 16 36-38 12 9 11 7 15-15 8 12 10 8 11 9 12 17-17 14 9 12 12 14 8 11 22 23 11 14 12 13 10 12 12 11
 
=== Marko Heinila calculations ===


Laut Kalkulation von Marko Heinila ([http://dna-forums.org/index.php?/user/6223-mth69/ mth69], [http://beforepresent.dyndns.info/  J.xml], 2011-08-24): größte Nähe zum Subclade J-M47, auch J2a4a und neu J2a3a genannt, bestimmende Marker M47, M322. MCRA mit J-M47 vor etwa 8.500 Jahren. J-M47 hat bisher hauptsächlich arabische und westeuropäische Probanden (SA, AE, KW, IT, DE, FR, UK). J-RotWeb* spaltete sich vor etwa 6.000 Jahren von einem weiteren Teilzweig (SA, FR, UK) ab. Die letzte Trennung erfolgte dann vor etwa 5.500 Jahren (mehrere Probanden aus SA). Die Unsicherheit dieser Kalkulationen (Alter und Clade-Position) ist noch sehr hoch. In einer früheren Kalkulation (2011-08-05) war noch ein armenischer Proband gemeinsam im Clade mit J-M47 und die letzte Trennung von J-RotWeb* erfolgte vor 4.000 Jahren. J-RotWeb* scheint seit einigen Jahrtausenden eigenständig zu sein und keine näheren Übereinstimmungen mit bekannten FTDNA-Y-Proben zu haben.
* '''August 2011''' ([http://dna-forums.org/index.php?/user/6223-mth69/ dna-forums.org mth69], [http://beforepresent.dyndns.info/  J.xml], 2011-08-24): J-RotWeb* nearest to Subclade J-M47 (J2a4a or new J2a3a). MCRA with J-M47 arround 8500 years before present (YBP). J-M47 has arabian and west european probands (SA, AE, KW, IT, DE, FR, UK). J-RotWeb* divided arround 6000 years from another subbranch (SA, FR, UK). The last division was arround 5.500 years ago (probands from SA). This calculations have still a big error potential (age and Clade-Position). In an older calculation (2011-08-05) an armenian proband was in the clade J-M47 and the last dicision of J-RotWeb* was 4000 years BP. J-RotWeb* seems to be without FTDNA-Y-DNA cousins since over 3000 years.


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Version vom 21. Mai 2012, 10:50 Uhr

Defining SNP-Mutations (Definierende SNP-Mutationen)

ISOGG Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree v6.73 16 Sep. 2011, Haplogroup J and its Subclades

              • IJK: L15/M523/S137, L16/M522/S138, L69.1(=G)/S163.1
                • IJ: M429/P125, P123, P124, P126, P127, P129, P130/S22, S2
                  • J: 12f2.1, L134, M304/Page16, P209, S6/L60, S34, S35
                    • J2: M172/Page28, L228,
                      M172: aka Page28 or PS28 or PAGES00028; Underhill et al (2000); Karafet et al (2001); Underhill et al (2001); Cruciani et al (2002); Semino et al (2002); YCC (2002); Butler (2003); Jobling et al (2003); Kivisild et al (2003); Nasidze et al (2003); Behar et al (2004); Cinnioglu et al (2004); Di Giacomo et al (2004); Flores et al (2004); Nasidze et al (2004); Semino et al (2004); Shen et al (2004); Alonso et al (2005); Capelli et al (2005); Hammer et al (2005); Nasidze et al (2005); Regueiro et al (2006); Sengupta et al (2006); Karafet et al (2008); King et al (2008); Zalloua et al (2008); El Sibai et al (2009); Rozen et al (2009); Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. rs2032604. 13479028.
                      L228: El Sibai et al (2009); Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. 7831358.
                      • J2a: M410, L152, L212, L559
                        M410: Regueiro et al (2006); Sengupta et al (2006); Karafet et al (2008); King et al (2008). RefSNP ID: . Y-position: (Build 36.3) 2811678.
                        L152: Communicated to the ISOGG Y-DNA Working Group. rs2690775. 20702954.
                        L212: Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. 21120853.
                        L559: Communicated to the ISOGG Y-DNA Working Group. 20133715.

23andMe Labs Haplogroup Tree Mutation Mapper (Brian Naughton, 23 Sep 2011). Defining mutations: variant call anc der:

              • IJK: rs9786139 (L15) G A G; rs9786714 (L16) A G A
                • IJ: rs17250163 (P126) G C G; rs17250887 (P130) T A T; rs17306671 (M429) A T A; rs17306699 (P129) G A G; rs17315772 (P124) C A C; rs17315821 (P123) C T C; rs7892893 (P127) T C T
                  • J: rs13447352 (M304) C A C
                    • J2: rs2032604 (M172) G T G
                      • J2a: N/A

Haplogroup Y-J sub-clade Nomenclatures (Historische Bezeichnungen)

YCC NRY Tree 2002 showing correspondences with prior nomenclatures

          • DEFGHIJ: B (Capelli et al 2001)
            • FGHIJ: VI (Underhill et al 2000), H4 (Su et al 1999)
              • IJK:
                • IJ-S2:
                  • J-M304: 9 (Kaladjieva et al 2001, Jobling et al 2000), Med (Hammer et al 2001)
                    • J2-M172: J2 (YCC / Karafet et al 2008, FTDNA 2005, YCC 2002), 24 (Karafet et al 2001), Eu9 (Semino et al 2000)
                      • J2a-M410: J2a (YCC / Karafet et al 2008), J2a-M410 (Sengupta et al. 2006)
                        • J2aX-L26-L27: J2a1 or J2a2 (fall 2011 drafts), J2a3 (ISOGG since 2011), J2a4 (FTDNA since 2009?), J2a4 (ISOGG Mar. 2009-2010), PAGE|S00055 (Rozen, Marszalek et al 2009), J2a-S57 (Ethnoancestry 2008), J2a*-M410? (Sengupta et al. 2006)

Subclade J-L26 (J2a4/J2a3)

FTDNA Draft Nov. 2011

                        • J2a4*: L26, L27
                          • possible subgroups (only childs): J2a4a M47, M322; J2a4b M67, L558; J2a4c M68; J2a4d M319; J2a4e M339; J2a4f M419; J2a4g P81; J2a4h L24, L207.1; J2a4i L88.2, L198; J-L26 L267; hg J-L26* P329.2
                        • Geschwister: hg J-P279 L581

Laut ISOGG Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree v6.73 16 Sep. 20114

                        • J2a3: DYS413≤18, L26/Page55/S57, L27)
                          DYS413≤18: Comments: Di Giacomo et al (2004); Regueiro et al (2006); Sengupta et al (2006); King et al (2008). RefSNP ID: . Y-position (Build 36.3): .
                          L26: Comments: aka Page55 or PS55 or PAGES00055, aka S57. Rozen et al (2009); Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. RefSNP ID: rs34459399. Y-position (Build 36.3): 21352285.
                          L27: Comments: Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. RefSNP ID: rs34126399. Y-position (Build 36.3): 21431366.
                          • possible subgroups: J2a3a (M47, M322), J2a3b (M67/S51), J2a3b1 (M92, M260/Page14), J2a3b1a (M327), J2a3b2 (M163, M166), J2a3b3 (L210, L218, L227), J2a3c (M68), J2a3d (M319), J2a3e (M339), J2a3f (M419), J2a3g (P81), J2a3h (L24, L207.1), J2a3h1 (M158, location under L24 is uncertain), J2a3h2 (L25), J2a3h2a (DYS445≤7), J2a3h2a1 (L70, L397, L398), J2a3h2a1a (M137), J2a3h2a1b (M289, location under DYS445≤7 uncertain), J2a3h2a1c (M318), J2a3h2b (L229, L230, L264), J2a3h2c (L231), J2a3h2d (L243), J2a3h2e (L254), J2a3h2f (L192.2), J2a3h2f1 (L271), J2a3h2g (L270), J2a3i (L88.2, L198)
                        • Siblings: J2a2 (P279); Siblings subgroup: J2a2a (M340)

Private Subclade J-RotWeb* (J2a4*/J2a3*)

Y-Haplogroup J DNA Project: May 2012 J2a3* Cluster H

FTDNA SNP-Tests

SNP-Tests by FTDNA 14 Dec 2011:

  • Negative: M322- L267- P329.2- L207.1- L558- L88.2-
  • New full list: M410+ M304+ M172+ L27+ L26+ P81- P329.2- P279- M99- M92- M68- M67- M62- M47- M419- M390- M369- M368- M367- M365.2- M340- M339- M322- M319- M318- M289- M280- M267- M205- M166- M163- M158- M137- M12- M102- L88.2- L558- L267- L25- L24- L207.1- L198-

SNP-Tests by FTDNA 12 Sep 2009:

  • Positive: M410+ M304+ M172+ L27+ L26+
  • Negative: P81- P279- M99- M92- M68- M67- M62- M47- M419- M390- M369- M368- M367- M365.2- M340- M339- M319- M318- M289- M280- M267- M205- M166- M163- M158- M137- M12- M102- L25- L24- L198-
  • Tested directly under L26+,L27+: M47- M67- M68- M319- M339- M419- P81- L24- L198-
  • Not tested directly under L26+,L27+: L267 (ChrY:2948591), P329.2 (ChrY:8526781)
  • Matches One-Pass-Mutations FTDNA 2011-09-12 (Haplogroup/Country/Number): J1/IT/1, J1/?/1, J2/FR/1, J2/UK/2, J2/?/4, J2a4b/UK/1, J2a4b/?/1
  • Matches for 12-Markers Y-DNA FTDNA 2011-09-12 (Country/Number/Matches/Total): UK/3/10.385, IT/1/3.270, FR/1/3.265, DE/1/11.753

FTDNA DYS Y-DNA-67-Marker

12 23 14 9 13-18 11 15 11 13 11 29 15 9-9 11 11 25 15 21 30 13-13-15-15-15-16 11 10 22-22 15 14 19 16 36-38 12 9 11 7 15-15 8 12 10 8 11 9 12 17-17 14 9 12 12 14 8 11 22 23 11 14 12 13 10 12 12 11

Marko Heinila calculations

  • August 2011 (dna-forums.org mth69, J.xml, 2011-08-24): J-RotWeb* nearest to Subclade J-M47 (J2a4a or new J2a3a). MCRA with J-M47 arround 8500 years before present (YBP). J-M47 has arabian and west european probands (SA, AE, KW, IT, DE, FR, UK). J-RotWeb* divided arround 6000 years from another subbranch (SA, FR, UK). The last division was arround 5.500 years ago (probands from SA). This calculations have still a big error potential (age and Clade-Position). In an older calculation (2011-08-05) an armenian proband was in the clade J-M47 and the last dicision of J-RotWeb* was 4000 years BP. J-RotWeb* seems to be without FTDNA-Y-DNA cousins since over 3000 years.
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