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[http://isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_YDNATreeTrunk.html ISOGG Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree v6.73 16 Sep. 2011], [http://isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpJ.html Haplogroup J and its Subclades]


******* [[Y-DNA IJK|IJK: L15/M523/S137, L16/M522/S138, L69.1(=G)/S163.1 ]]
M = Underhill Stanford, P = Hammer Arizona, S = Wilson Edinburgh, U = Sims/Garvey/Ballantyne USA, Page (PAGES or PS) = Page Whitehead Institute, V = Scozzari/Cruciani Italy, L = Krahn FTDNA, Z = Magoon/Rocca/Reynolds/Schrack/Op den Velde Boots/Banks/Krahn/etc., DF = anonymous researcher
******** IJ: M429/P125, P123, P124, P126, P127, P129, P130/S22, '''S2'''
 
********* J: 12f2.1, L134, '''M304'''/Page16, P209, S6/L60, S34, S35
Legend publication date: (online), {scientific paper, book, database, etc.}
********** J2: '''M172'''/Page28, L228, <br />'''M172''': aka Page28 or PS28 or PAGES00028; Underhill et al (2000); Karafet et al (2001); Underhill et al (2001); Cruciani et al (2002); Semino et al (2002); YCC (2002); Butler (2003); Jobling et al (2003); Kivisild et al (2003); Nasidze et al (2003); Behar et al (2004); Cinnioglu et al (2004); Di Giacomo et al (2004); Flores et al (2004); Nasidze et al (2004); Semino et al (2004); Shen et al (2004); Alonso et al (2005); Capelli et al (2005); Hammer et al (2005); Nasidze et al (2005); Regueiro et al (2006); Sengupta et al (2006); Karafet et al (2008); King et al (2008); Zalloua et al (2008); El Sibai et al (2009); Rozen et al (2009); Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. rs2032604. 13479028. <br />'''L228''': El Sibai et al (2009); Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. 7831358.  
 
*********** J2a: '''M410''', L152, L212, L559<br />'''M410''': Regueiro et al (2006); Sengupta et al (2006); Karafet et al (2008); King et al (2008). RefSNP ID: . Y-position: (Build 36.3) 2811678. <br />'''L152''': Communicated to the ISOGG Y-DNA Working Group. rs2690775. 20702954. <br />'''L212''': Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. 21120853. <br />'''L559''': Communicated to the ISOGG Y-DNA Working Group. 20133715.  
******* [[Y-DNA IJK|IJK]]: L15/M523/S137, L16/M522/S138, L69.1(=G)/S163.1  
******** IJ: '''M429''' [http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/pdf/10.1146/annurev.genet.41.110306.130407 {Dec. 2007}]<br />M429 = P125 = rs17306671 [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/SNP/snp_ref.cgi?rs=17306671 {Aug. 2004}], P123, P124, P126, P127, P129, P130/S22, S2
********* J: '''M304'''<br />M304 = Page16 = rs13447352 [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/SNP/snp_ref.cgi?rs=13447352 {Mar. 2004}], 12f2.1, L134, P209, S6/L60, S34, S35
********** J2: '''M172''' [http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=73457 {Apr. 2001}]<br />M172 = Page28 = rs2032604 [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/SNP/snp_ref.cgi?rs=2032604 {Jan. 2001}], L228, <br />M172 aka Page28 or PS28 or PAGES00028: Underhill et al (2000); Karafet et al (2001); Underhill et al (2001); Cruciani et al (2002); Semino et al (2002); YCC (2002); Butler (2003); Jobling et al (2003); Kivisild et al (2003); Nasidze et al (2003); Behar et al (2004); Cinnioglu et al (2004); Di Giacomo et al (2004); Flores et al (2004); Nasidze et al (2004); Semino et al (2004); Shen et al (2004); Alonso et al (2005); Capelli et al (2005); Hammer et al (2005); Nasidze et al (2005); Regueiro et al (2006); Sengupta et al (2006); Karafet et al (2008); King et al (2008); Zalloua et al (2008); El Sibai et al (2009); Rozen et al (2009); Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. rs2032604. 13479028. <br />L228: El Sibai et al (2009); Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. 7831358.  
*********** J2a: '''M410'''<br /> L152, L212, L559<br />M410: Regueiro et al (2006); Sengupta et al (2006); Karafet et al (2008); King et al (2008). RefSNP ID: . Y-position: (Build 36.3) 2811678. <br />L152: Communicated to the ISOGG Y-DNA Working Group. rs2690775. 20702954. <br />L212: Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. 21120853. <br />L559: Communicated to the ISOGG Y-DNA Working Group. 20133715.  


[https://www.23andme.com/you/labs/haplogroup_tree_mut_mapper/ 23andMe Labs Haplogroup Tree Mutation Mapper] (Brian Naughton, 23 Sep 2011). Defining mutations: variant call anc der:
[https://www.23andme.com/you/labs/haplogroup_tree_mut_mapper/ 23andMe Labs Haplogroup Tree Mutation Mapper] (Brian Naughton, 23 Sep 2011). Defining mutations: variant call anc der:
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********** J2-'''M172''': J2 (YCC / Karafet et al 2008, FTDNA 2005, YCC 2002), 24 (Karafet et al 2001), Eu9 (Semino et al 2000)
********** J2-'''M172''': J2 (YCC / Karafet et al 2008, FTDNA 2005, YCC 2002), 24 (Karafet et al 2001), Eu9 (Semino et al 2000)
*********** J2a-'''M410''': J2a (YCC / Karafet et al 2008), J2a-M410 (Sengupta et al. 2006)
*********** J2a-'''M410''': J2a (YCC / Karafet et al 2008), J2a-M410 (Sengupta et al. 2006)
************ J2aX-'''L26-L27''': J2a1 or J2a2 (fall 2011 drafts), J2a3 (ISOGG since 2011), J2a4 (FTDNA since 2009?), J2a4 (ISOGG Mar. 2009-2010), PAGE|S00055 (Rozen, Marszalek et al 2009), J2a-S57 (Ethnoancestry 2008), J2a*-M410? (Sengupta et al. 2006)
************ J2aX-'''L26-L27''': J2a1 (ISOGG 2006-2008, since Aug. 2012), J2a3 (ISOGG 2011 - Aug. 2012), J2a4 (FTDNA since 2009?, ISOGG Mar. 2009-2010), J2aX (YCC since 2008), PAGE|S00055 (Rozen, Marszalek et al 2009), J2a-S57 (Ethnoancestry 2008), J2a*-M410? (Sengupta et al. 2006)


== Subclade J-L26 (J2a4/J2a3) ==  
== Subclade J-L26 (J2a4/J2a3) ==  
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== Private Subclade J-RotWeb* (J2a4*/J2a3*) ==  
== Private Subclade J-RotWeb* (J2a4*/J2a3*) ==  
[http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Y-DNA_J/ Y-Haplogroup J DNA Project]: May 2012 J2a3* Cluster H (page 3 with page size 500)
=== FTDNA SNP-Tests ===
'''SNP-Tests''' by FTDNA 14 Dec 2011:  
'''SNP-Tests''' by FTDNA 14 Dec 2011:  
* Negative: M322- L267- P329.2- L207.1- L558- L88.2-
* Negative: M322- L267- P329.2- L207.1- L558- L88.2-
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* Matches One-Pass-Mutations FTDNA 2011-09-12 (Haplogroup/Country/Number): J1/IT/1, J1/?/1, J2/FR/1, J2/UK/2, J2/?/4, J2a4b/UK/1, J2a4b/?/1
* Matches One-Pass-Mutations FTDNA 2011-09-12 (Haplogroup/Country/Number): J1/IT/1, J1/?/1, J2/FR/1, J2/UK/2, J2/?/4, J2a4b/UK/1, J2a4b/?/1
* Matches for 12-Markers Y-DNA FTDNA 2011-09-12 (Country/Number/Matches/Total): UK/3/10.385, IT/1/3.270, FR/1/3.265, DE/1/11.753
* Matches for 12-Markers Y-DNA FTDNA 2011-09-12 (Country/Number/Matches/Total): UK/3/10.385, IT/1/3.270, FR/1/3.265, DE/1/11.753
* FTDNA DYS Y-DNA-67-Marker: 12 23 14 9 13-18 11 15 11 13 11 29 15 9-9 11 11 25 15 21 30 13-13-15-15-15-16 11 10 22-22 15 14 19 16 36-38 12 9 11 7 15-15 8 12 10 8 11 9 12 17-17 14 9 12 12 14 8 11 22 23 11 14 12 13 10 12 12 11


=== Some more insights (to translate) ===
=== DYS Y-DNA STR-Markers  ===
* FTDNA 67 STR-Markers - DYS393 DYS390 DYS19 DYS391 DYS385 DYS426 DYS388 DYS439 DYS389i DYS392 DYS389ii DYS458 DYS459 DYS455 DYS454 DYS447 DYS437 DYS448 DYS449 DYS464 DYS460 Y-GATA-H4 YCAII DYS456 DYS607 DYS576 DYS570 CDY DYS442 DYS438 DYS531 DYS578 DYF395S1 DYS590 DYS537 DYS641 DYS472 DYF406S1 DYS511 DYS425 DYS413 DYS557 DYS594 DYS436 DYS490 DYS534 DYS450 DYS444 DYS481 DYS520 DYS446 DYS617 DYS568 DYS487 DYS572 DYS640 DYS492 DYS565
J-RotWeb (L1064) 12 23 14 9 13-18 11 15 11 13 11 29 15 9-9 11 11 25 15 21 30 13-13-15-15-15-16 11 10 22-22 15 14 19 16 36-38 12 9 11 7 15-15 8 12 10 8 11 9 12 17-17 14 9 12 12 14 8 11 22 23 11 14 12 13 10 12 12 11
* FTDNA 67 STR-Markers - DYS464 standard (4 and not 6 markers, for Y-Predictors)
J-RotWeb (L1064) 12 23 14 9 13-18 11 15 11 13 11 29 15 9-9 11 11 25 15 21 30 13-13-15-15 11 10 22-22 15 14 19 16 36-38 12 9 11 7 15-15 8 12 10 8 11 9 12 17-17 14 9 12 12 14 8 11 22 23 11 14 12 13 10 12 12 11
* Y-chromosome UEP + microsatellite haplotypes (NIST) DYS19, DYS389I, DYS389II, DYS390, DYS391, DYS392, DYS393, DYS388, DYS426
J-RotWeb (L1064) 14 13 29 23 9 11 12 15 11
* Y-chromosome YHRD.org Haplotypes (NIST) DYS19 DYS389I DYS389II DYS390 DYS391 DYS392 DYS393 DYS385 DYS438 DYS439 (-4?) DYS437 DYS448 DYS456 DYS458 DYS635 YGATAH4 (FTDNA+1)
J-RotWeb (L1064) 14 13 29 23 9 11 12 13.18 9 11 15 21 15 15 -1 11
 
=== SMGF.org Database ===
July 2012 <ref>http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/</ref>. STR Values out of 67 FTDNA Markers:
* in SMGF Data: DYS393 DYS390 DYS394/19 DYS391 DYS385a,b DYS426 DYS388 DYS439 DYS389I DYS392 DYS389II DYS458 DYS459a,b DYS455 DYS454 DYS447 DYS437 DYS448 DYS449 DYS464a,b DYS464c,d DYS460 GATA H4.1 YCAIIa,b DYS456 DYS442 DYS438 DYS444 DYS446
* not in 67 FTDNA Markers: DYS461 DYS462 YGATAA10 DYS635 GGAAT1B07 DYS441 DYS445 DYS452 DYS463
* 12 23 14 9 13 18 11 15 11 13 11 29 15 9 9 11 11 25 15 21 30 13 13 15 15 11 10 22 22 15 12 9 11 11
Matches {Differences STR}:
* '''Zanatta''' (Origin Veneto, North Italy?): The first J-RotWeb* near unrelated match seems to be found at 25/27 (28) markers {DYS385b, DYS449, DYS464b?}. 75% Probability by SMGF in the last 25 generations or 775 years. Two Zanatta from Brazil match with the same GD. Luigi Zanatta migrated to Brazil from Italy 13/Nov/1887. Migration to NY/USA in early 1900s was from Porcellengo, Treviso, North Italy. <ref>http://genforum.genealogy.com/zanatta/</ref>
* '''El-Figawi''' / Figawee (Palestine): various markers matches 10/11, 22/26, 20/23, 23/28, 23/28, 23/28. The three 23/28 matches {DYS390, DYS447, DYS449, DYS464b-d?, YCAIIb} are 75% Probability by SMGF in the last 39 generations or 1209 years.
* Minor Matches: 21/28 '''Malaman''' (Brazil/Veneto-Italy) {DYS391, DYS385b, DYS447, DYS464b/d, YCAIIb, DYS444, DYS446}, 21/28 ~Azerbaijan, 10/13 Michaud (USA/Canada), 7/10 Hedegaard (Denmark),
* Distant Matches: 20/28 GOODSELL [USA-Utah/England], TORRICO CASTELLON [Chile/Bolivia], PEREZ [~Mexico], ULLAH [Pakistan], RAMON [~Mexico]
 
=== Marko Heinila calculations ===
* '''August 2011''' ([http://dna-forums.org/index.php?/user/6223-mth69/ dna-forums.org mth69], [http://beforepresent.dyndns.info/  J.xml], 2011-08-24): J-RotWeb* nearest to Subclade J-M47 (J2a4a or new J2a3a). MCRA with J-M47 arround 8500 years before present (YBP). J-M47 has arabian and west european probands (SA, AE, KW, IT, DE, FR, UK). J-RotWeb* divided arround 6000 years from another subbranch (SA, FR, UK). The last division was arround 5.500 years ago (probands from SA). This calculations have still a big error potential (age and Clade-Position). In an older calculation (2011-08-05) an armenian proband was in the clade J-M47 and the last dicision of J-RotWeb* was 4000 years BP. J-RotWeb* seems to be without FTDNA-Y-DNA cousins since over 3000 years.
 
== Interesting FTDNA Projects ==  
Interesting Surname Projects (ca. members J/Y-DNA July 2012):
* [http://www.familytreedna.com/public/carrico/ Carrico] (21/30, Portugal?, J2-M67)
* [http://www.familytreedna.com/public/cook/ Cook/Cooke/Koch] (28/316, England/Germany, J2-L26/J2-M241/J2-M92)
* [http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Montgomery/ Montgomery] (101/225, UK/Ireland, J2-L26*),


Laut Kalkulation von Marko Heinila ([http://dna-forums.org/index.php?/user/6223-mth69/ mth69], [http://beforepresent.dyndns.info/  J.xml], 2011-08-24): größte Nähe zum Subclade J-M47, auch J2a4a und neu J2a3a genannt, bestimmende Marker M47, M322. MCRA mit J-M47 vor etwa 8.500 Jahren. J-M47 hat bisher hauptsächlich arabische und westeuropäische Probanden (SA, AE, KW, IT, DE, FR, UK). J-RotWeb* spaltete sich vor etwa 6.000 Jahren von einem weiteren Teilzweig (SA, FR, UK) ab. Die letzte Trennung erfolgte dann vor etwa 5.500 Jahren (mehrere Probanden aus SA). Die Unsicherheit dieser Kalkulationen (Alter und Clade-Position) ist noch sehr hoch. In einer früheren Kalkulation (2011-08-05) war noch ein armenischer Proband gemeinsam im Clade mit J-M47 und die letzte Trennung von J-RotWeb* erfolgte vor 4.000 Jahren. J-RotWeb* scheint seit einigen Jahrtausenden eigenständig zu sein und keine näheren Übereinstimmungen mit bekannten FTDNA-Y-Proben zu haben.
== References ==
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Defining SNP-Mutations (Definierende SNP-Mutationen)

ISOGG Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree v6.73 16 Sep. 2011, Haplogroup J and its Subclades

M = Underhill Stanford, P = Hammer Arizona, S = Wilson Edinburgh, U = Sims/Garvey/Ballantyne USA, Page (PAGES or PS) = Page Whitehead Institute, V = Scozzari/Cruciani Italy, L = Krahn FTDNA, Z = Magoon/Rocca/Reynolds/Schrack/Op den Velde Boots/Banks/Krahn/etc., DF = anonymous researcher

Legend publication date: (online), {scientific paper, book, database, etc.}

              • IJK: L15/M523/S137, L16/M522/S138, L69.1(=G)/S163.1
                • IJ: M429 {Dec. 2007}
                  M429 = P125 = rs17306671 {Aug. 2004}, P123, P124, P126, P127, P129, P130/S22, S2
                  • J: M304
                    M304 = Page16 = rs13447352 {Mar. 2004}, 12f2.1, L134, P209, S6/L60, S34, S35
                    • J2: M172 {Apr. 2001}
                      M172 = Page28 = rs2032604 {Jan. 2001}, L228,
                      M172 aka Page28 or PS28 or PAGES00028: Underhill et al (2000); Karafet et al (2001); Underhill et al (2001); Cruciani et al (2002); Semino et al (2002); YCC (2002); Butler (2003); Jobling et al (2003); Kivisild et al (2003); Nasidze et al (2003); Behar et al (2004); Cinnioglu et al (2004); Di Giacomo et al (2004); Flores et al (2004); Nasidze et al (2004); Semino et al (2004); Shen et al (2004); Alonso et al (2005); Capelli et al (2005); Hammer et al (2005); Nasidze et al (2005); Regueiro et al (2006); Sengupta et al (2006); Karafet et al (2008); King et al (2008); Zalloua et al (2008); El Sibai et al (2009); Rozen et al (2009); Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. rs2032604. 13479028.
                      L228: El Sibai et al (2009); Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. 7831358.
                      • J2a: M410
                        L152, L212, L559
                        M410: Regueiro et al (2006); Sengupta et al (2006); Karafet et al (2008); King et al (2008). RefSNP ID: . Y-position: (Build 36.3) 2811678.
                        L152: Communicated to the ISOGG Y-DNA Working Group. rs2690775. 20702954.
                        L212: Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. 21120853.
                        L559: Communicated to the ISOGG Y-DNA Working Group. 20133715.

23andMe Labs Haplogroup Tree Mutation Mapper (Brian Naughton, 23 Sep 2011). Defining mutations: variant call anc der:

              • IJK: rs9786139 (L15) G A G; rs9786714 (L16) A G A
                • IJ: rs17250163 (P126) G C G; rs17250887 (P130) T A T; rs17306671 (M429) A T A; rs17306699 (P129) G A G; rs17315772 (P124) C A C; rs17315821 (P123) C T C; rs7892893 (P127) T C T
                  • J: rs13447352 (M304) C A C
                    • J2: rs2032604 (M172) G T G
                      • J2a: N/A

Haplogroup Y-J sub-clade Nomenclatures (Historische Bezeichnungen)

YCC NRY Tree 2002 showing correspondences with prior nomenclatures

          • DEFGHIJ: B (Capelli et al 2001)
            • FGHIJ: VI (Underhill et al 2000), H4 (Su et al 1999)
              • IJK:
                • IJ-S2:
                  • J-M304: 9 (Kaladjieva et al 2001, Jobling et al 2000), Med (Hammer et al 2001)
                    • J2-M172: J2 (YCC / Karafet et al 2008, FTDNA 2005, YCC 2002), 24 (Karafet et al 2001), Eu9 (Semino et al 2000)
                      • J2a-M410: J2a (YCC / Karafet et al 2008), J2a-M410 (Sengupta et al. 2006)
                        • J2aX-L26-L27: J2a1 (ISOGG 2006-2008, since Aug. 2012), J2a3 (ISOGG 2011 - Aug. 2012), J2a4 (FTDNA since 2009?, ISOGG Mar. 2009-2010), J2aX (YCC since 2008), PAGE|S00055 (Rozen, Marszalek et al 2009), J2a-S57 (Ethnoancestry 2008), J2a*-M410? (Sengupta et al. 2006)

Subclade J-L26 (J2a4/J2a3)

FTDNA Draft Nov. 2011

                        • J2a4*: L26, L27
                          • possible subgroups (only childs): J2a4a M47, M322; J2a4b M67, L558; J2a4c M68; J2a4d M319; J2a4e M339; J2a4f M419; J2a4g P81; J2a4h L24, L207.1; J2a4i L88.2, L198; J-L26 L267; hg J-L26* P329.2
                        • Geschwister: hg J-P279 L581

Laut ISOGG Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree v6.73 16 Sep. 20114

                        • J2a3: DYS413≤18, L26/Page55/S57, L27)
                          DYS413≤18: Comments: Di Giacomo et al (2004); Regueiro et al (2006); Sengupta et al (2006); King et al (2008). RefSNP ID: . Y-position (Build 36.3): .
                          L26: Comments: aka Page55 or PS55 or PAGES00055, aka S57. Rozen et al (2009); Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. RefSNP ID: rs34459399. Y-position (Build 36.3): 21352285.
                          L27: Comments: Family Tree DNA 2011 Tree. RefSNP ID: rs34126399. Y-position (Build 36.3): 21431366.
                          • possible subgroups: J2a3a (M47, M322), J2a3b (M67/S51), J2a3b1 (M92, M260/Page14), J2a3b1a (M327), J2a3b2 (M163, M166), J2a3b3 (L210, L218, L227), J2a3c (M68), J2a3d (M319), J2a3e (M339), J2a3f (M419), J2a3g (P81), J2a3h (L24, L207.1), J2a3h1 (M158, location under L24 is uncertain), J2a3h2 (L25), J2a3h2a (DYS445≤7), J2a3h2a1 (L70, L397, L398), J2a3h2a1a (M137), J2a3h2a1b (M289, location under DYS445≤7 uncertain), J2a3h2a1c (M318), J2a3h2b (L229, L230, L264), J2a3h2c (L231), J2a3h2d (L243), J2a3h2e (L254), J2a3h2f (L192.2), J2a3h2f1 (L271), J2a3h2g (L270), J2a3i (L88.2, L198)
                        • Siblings: J2a2 (P279); Siblings subgroup: J2a2a (M340)

Private Subclade J-RotWeb* (J2a4*/J2a3*)

Y-Haplogroup J DNA Project: May 2012 J2a3* Cluster H (page 3 with page size 500)

FTDNA SNP-Tests

SNP-Tests by FTDNA 14 Dec 2011:

  • Negative: M322- L267- P329.2- L207.1- L558- L88.2-
  • New full list: M410+ M304+ M172+ L27+ L26+ P81- P329.2- P279- M99- M92- M68- M67- M62- M47- M419- M390- M369- M368- M367- M365.2- M340- M339- M322- M319- M318- M289- M280- M267- M205- M166- M163- M158- M137- M12- M102- L88.2- L558- L267- L25- L24- L207.1- L198-

SNP-Tests by FTDNA 12 Sep 2009:

  • Positive: M410+ M304+ M172+ L27+ L26+
  • Negative: P81- P279- M99- M92- M68- M67- M62- M47- M419- M390- M369- M368- M367- M365.2- M340- M339- M319- M318- M289- M280- M267- M205- M166- M163- M158- M137- M12- M102- L25- L24- L198-
  • Tested directly under L26+,L27+: M47- M67- M68- M319- M339- M419- P81- L24- L198-
  • Not tested directly under L26+,L27+: L267 (ChrY:2948591), P329.2 (ChrY:8526781)
  • Matches One-Pass-Mutations FTDNA 2011-09-12 (Haplogroup/Country/Number): J1/IT/1, J1/?/1, J2/FR/1, J2/UK/2, J2/?/4, J2a4b/UK/1, J2a4b/?/1
  • Matches for 12-Markers Y-DNA FTDNA 2011-09-12 (Country/Number/Matches/Total): UK/3/10.385, IT/1/3.270, FR/1/3.265, DE/1/11.753

DYS Y-DNA STR-Markers

  • FTDNA 67 STR-Markers - DYS393 DYS390 DYS19 DYS391 DYS385 DYS426 DYS388 DYS439 DYS389i DYS392 DYS389ii DYS458 DYS459 DYS455 DYS454 DYS447 DYS437 DYS448 DYS449 DYS464 DYS460 Y-GATA-H4 YCAII DYS456 DYS607 DYS576 DYS570 CDY DYS442 DYS438 DYS531 DYS578 DYF395S1 DYS590 DYS537 DYS641 DYS472 DYF406S1 DYS511 DYS425 DYS413 DYS557 DYS594 DYS436 DYS490 DYS534 DYS450 DYS444 DYS481 DYS520 DYS446 DYS617 DYS568 DYS487 DYS572 DYS640 DYS492 DYS565

J-RotWeb (L1064) 12 23 14 9 13-18 11 15 11 13 11 29 15 9-9 11 11 25 15 21 30 13-13-15-15-15-16 11 10 22-22 15 14 19 16 36-38 12 9 11 7 15-15 8 12 10 8 11 9 12 17-17 14 9 12 12 14 8 11 22 23 11 14 12 13 10 12 12 11

  • FTDNA 67 STR-Markers - DYS464 standard (4 and not 6 markers, for Y-Predictors)

J-RotWeb (L1064) 12 23 14 9 13-18 11 15 11 13 11 29 15 9-9 11 11 25 15 21 30 13-13-15-15 11 10 22-22 15 14 19 16 36-38 12 9 11 7 15-15 8 12 10 8 11 9 12 17-17 14 9 12 12 14 8 11 22 23 11 14 12 13 10 12 12 11

  • Y-chromosome UEP + microsatellite haplotypes (NIST) DYS19, DYS389I, DYS389II, DYS390, DYS391, DYS392, DYS393, DYS388, DYS426

J-RotWeb (L1064) 14 13 29 23 9 11 12 15 11

  • Y-chromosome YHRD.org Haplotypes (NIST) DYS19 DYS389I DYS389II DYS390 DYS391 DYS392 DYS393 DYS385 DYS438 DYS439 (-4?) DYS437 DYS448 DYS456 DYS458 DYS635 YGATAH4 (FTDNA+1)

J-RotWeb (L1064) 14 13 29 23 9 11 12 13.18 9 11 15 21 15 15 -1 11

SMGF.org Database

July 2012 [1]. STR Values out of 67 FTDNA Markers:

  • in SMGF Data: DYS393 DYS390 DYS394/19 DYS391 DYS385a,b DYS426 DYS388 DYS439 DYS389I DYS392 DYS389II DYS458 DYS459a,b DYS455 DYS454 DYS447 DYS437 DYS448 DYS449 DYS464a,b DYS464c,d DYS460 GATA H4.1 YCAIIa,b DYS456 DYS442 DYS438 DYS444 DYS446
  • not in 67 FTDNA Markers: DYS461 DYS462 YGATAA10 DYS635 GGAAT1B07 DYS441 DYS445 DYS452 DYS463
  • 12 23 14 9 13 18 11 15 11 13 11 29 15 9 9 11 11 25 15 21 30 13 13 15 15 11 10 22 22 15 12 9 11 11

Matches {Differences STR}:

  • Zanatta (Origin Veneto, North Italy?): The first J-RotWeb* near unrelated match seems to be found at 25/27 (28) markers {DYS385b, DYS449, DYS464b?}. 75% Probability by SMGF in the last 25 generations or 775 years. Two Zanatta from Brazil match with the same GD. Luigi Zanatta migrated to Brazil from Italy 13/Nov/1887. Migration to NY/USA in early 1900s was from Porcellengo, Treviso, North Italy. [2]
  • El-Figawi / Figawee (Palestine): various markers matches 10/11, 22/26, 20/23, 23/28, 23/28, 23/28. The three 23/28 matches {DYS390, DYS447, DYS449, DYS464b-d?, YCAIIb} are 75% Probability by SMGF in the last 39 generations or 1209 years.
  • Minor Matches: 21/28 Malaman (Brazil/Veneto-Italy) {DYS391, DYS385b, DYS447, DYS464b/d, YCAIIb, DYS444, DYS446}, 21/28 ~Azerbaijan, 10/13 Michaud (USA/Canada), 7/10 Hedegaard (Denmark),
  • Distant Matches: 20/28 GOODSELL [USA-Utah/England], TORRICO CASTELLON [Chile/Bolivia], PEREZ [~Mexico], ULLAH [Pakistan], RAMON [~Mexico]

Marko Heinila calculations

  • August 2011 (dna-forums.org mth69, J.xml, 2011-08-24): J-RotWeb* nearest to Subclade J-M47 (J2a4a or new J2a3a). MCRA with J-M47 arround 8500 years before present (YBP). J-M47 has arabian and west european probands (SA, AE, KW, IT, DE, FR, UK). J-RotWeb* divided arround 6000 years from another subbranch (SA, FR, UK). The last division was arround 5.500 years ago (probands from SA). This calculations have still a big error potential (age and Clade-Position). In an older calculation (2011-08-05) an armenian proband was in the clade J-M47 and the last dicision of J-RotWeb* was 4000 years BP. J-RotWeb* seems to be without FTDNA-Y-DNA cousins since over 3000 years.

Interesting FTDNA Projects

Interesting Surname Projects (ca. members J/Y-DNA July 2012):

References

  1. ↑ http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/
  2. ↑ http://genforum.genealogy.com/zanatta/
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